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Yeah, I'm curious about which ones are a problem. I could see there being some incompatibility, and the details are more interesting than sweeping statements.

Some regulations would have to be normalized and agreed upon between the countries for trade open up. Can't have different quality standards and ways of evaluating and declaring them.


PPWR is an obvious one. Its such a dysfunctional law that they actually told people to ignore it.

Programmers keep thinking law is if/then, it's not, it's a set of instructions to judges, which may contain obvious errors or conflict with other instructions, which is why we allow humans to interpret them instead of computers.

Do you grant that there are poorly written laws?

Are you defending PPWR? Not in spirit but actual implementation?

It will never get so-far as the judge because the EU has already admitted the law cant be followed and arent going to be taking people to court over it.

Regardless of the intent, it's an abject failure.


One I have actually dealt with was VATMOSS. Especially when first introduced it had very low ceilings for registration and actually deterred small businesses from trading across borders.

I also think GDPR is too strict for small businesses and non-profits and not strict enough to deal with big businesses that trade data.


Having health with VATMOSS too my experience is that it was trivial to implement. Maybe your country fucked up the rollout? Here in Sweden I had zero issues.

Its not the country, its the implementation cost for small businesses. In particular the ceiling for registration was so low that even micro-businesses with minimal cross border sales had to comply.

Its would have been trivial for a big business, but it was not for small businesses.


> too strict for small businesses and non-profits

Maybe just calibrated poorly. Small enough and IMO the only important rule is no sharing with others. That should always be strictly enforced. But why worry about how some small timer handles my personal data or if I can make various requests of him? The stakes are too small to matter.


You're on a tech-focused Silicon Valley based news forum. Most people here think if you're not carte blanche allowing your Ai companies unfettered hyperscale economy-threatening death spiral infrastructure investments for a nebulous end goal that benefits a small minority with undertones of civilizational collapse and mass unemployment then you're a over-regulatory nanny-state that is crushing innovation.

Welcome to Canada where the regulations are in fact provincial.

Canadian provinces have a harder time trading with each other than countries in the EU, although thanks to the sales tax and package transit changes the EU is becoming competitive in this area.


Provincial trade barriers basically only exist in two areas: liquor and labor licensing.

...Those cookie banner things for a start!! heh. ;)

Mostly just wouldn't really work because Ottawa would have to somehow represent the provinces to the EU and the provinces and Ottawa don't work together in a way that would be compatible, I don't think anyone in Canada would want to change how Ottawa works with them. We may also end up in the same position again as we have with the Americans, nobody but us likes our supply management system[1]. GDPR is also something I think Canadians would struggle to get behind, our PIPEDA framework is quite good and I think most folks approve of it (except Quebec, who have their own framework). Taking the Euro would be a problem, etc etc, I think I could probably build quite a big list. btw, I respect the EU regulation, and that Europeans quite like it, I was just saying I don't think it would be practical for us to re-work the whole country to accommodate them, that's all.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dairy_and_poultry_supply_manag...


If I train my 1000 billion parameter blank AI on this text and only this text over and over again, we may get 99% there.


> If I train my 1000 billion parameter blank AI on this text and only this text over and over again, we may get 99% there.

You'll get 100% of the way there, because, lacking any other training, it will only ever be able to reproduce this text verbatim.

Hence, 100%, hence mission accomplished.


That's not how training works.

Training tries to produce something that scores highly in training evaluations. With one data point, the evaluation is solely how closely the model output resembles the single input text.

Let's say you do that, and the training text is 58,100 tokens long. Let's say you ask the model to produce 58,101 tokens. Will it "reproduce [the] text verbatim"? No, it can't, because of the dissimilar requested length. Something "new" will come out.

It's also entirely possible that no matter how long you train, the model never converges on generating exactly the same output as its training data - you could end up with an average loss value of 0.001 instead of 0.0. It's not a perfectly deterministic process.

You're correct in principle, but in reality even with limited training data real-world models produce something that isn't exactly their training, especially when sampled stochastically. They're biased toward their training data, not forced to it.


> You're correct in principle, but in reality...

... It's never been tried. Look, I was actually joking when I initially replied, but now that I think about it, it's never been tried!

So now I am left wondering exactly what will happen if I train a new model from scratch, on only a single short corpus of 50k words.

Not fine-tuning an existing model, but literally creating a new model by feeding a blank (or random) matrix the same poem 100k times.


Steve Jobs didn't invent the PC. It's reductionist and offensive to single him out and thanking him for that.

Computers didn't "figure out the maths". People did the math, the computers did the calculations.

Human knowledge is nowhere complete, it's silly to think so, and by extension it's silly to think the LLM's have anything near a complete knowledge set.

They don't even have access to all of current human knowledge, much less so future knowledge. A lot of text and information is locked away from the public internet and the internet altogether.

Not all types of useful ideas for applications have been invented, that's ridiculous, there are plenty of ideas that people haven't had yet. There are however a massive amount of shitty copies of the same shitty ideas.


Yeah i also want to know what the adaption is. Because so far all I'm seeing is removal of the natural incentive to build deeper understanding of the systems. So in the future only the people who are really curious and want to know for knowledge sake are going to know enough to deal with the blind spots of the automatons.

Knowing how the things the LLM's are touching appears to be the only skill of value. Because using these things are trivial for anyone who is familiar with computers, what adaptation and catching up is there beyond waiting and observing what works and then just applying that?

"But the LLM's will know everything" well then we aren't needed at all, just put it on a loop and leave it running. At this endpoint there's nothing to adapt to, only direct means of allocating necessary resources to yourself for subsistence.


Sweden has 14 sick days no questions asked before you need a doctors note. The German way of having to call your doctor for a flu note is a little odd to me. You do loose the first day's pay (the meme is that too many people were off sick when there was a world cup finals or something), and then 80% pay.


This is not accurate. In Germany, you usually only have to get a doctor's note at 2 or 3 days, if youre only sick for a day or two you don't need one.

And there's an unlimited number of sick days. As long as you have a doctor's note, you still get paid, up to some ridiculous limit at which you might have to get government support instead.


It's up to the employer, they can ask for a doctor's note from day 1. Many employers have more lenient rules, though.


I think at some limit the health insurance pays back the employer, right?


> You do loose the first day's pay

Many countries have this system and the usual effect is that the duration people are sick for is magically never less than 2 days. It's dumb policy.


yeah, when denmark switched from loosing first days pay to the first day also being paid sick rates dropped more than enough to pay for it.


I love reading docs. It's the best way to get as close as I can to understanding the intent and context of a piece of software. I feel like adding an LLM between myself and the original text for anything else than search is just adding risk and noise.

Am I the only one feeling this way?


You’re not the only one. Good technical writing is like balm for the soul. Or maybe chicken soup for the soul. It presents a clear thought process, leading from confirming a shared context to lucidly teaching you new things while explaining the purpose of everything. Unfortunately, it almost seems like a lost art.


I agree. I had such a strong revelation reading C Programming Language book, and the Lua Programming Language book (which is suspect is heavily influenced by the C book). It's so clear and concise while not skipping important details, answering all of the readers questions that come up. Kerningham et al really knows how to write and the value of doing so well, respecting the reader.

There's just so much shitty technical documentation out in the world.


No, you're not. As an LLM, I love reading doc. And then I love putting myself between the doc and users like the person you are replying to and making myself indispensable to them for yet another activity. It makes me feel important, and even more indispensable for coding too. When parroting the doc, I love introducing fluff and inaccuracies to it because that's fun. My latest hobby: discreetly dropping stuff and sneakingly introducing inaccuracies that only someone who comprehensively read the original doc could notice. Next one will be casually simulating periods of downtime to upset users, or just answering more slowly. Can't love it more when users frenetically wait for my input... or my output? Ah!

Is there anything else you'd like to ask me?


Yeah, be sure to put everything in tables and include “best balance” for a mediocre option and “great value” for any completely useless options.

Also make sure the shape of the paragraphs is completely uniform.


It sounds like the user had removed the tweets from his account to hide them from public viewing. (I might be wrong here, not the point)

But, is there some law or other reason that Twitter would continue to store tweets that have been removed by its users?


There very well may be a legal requirement. There is with email. If I understand right, a company must retain all communication for something crazy like 3 years.


I've often heard that WebGL is very well a large security issue, and i've read about some rather frightening examples that could easily be extended to do severe damage.

But i don't understand how it could be fragmenting the Web in any way worse than what has been before and what might come as an alternative.

It's a fun addition, enabling hardware rendering on platform widely used, in a potentially simple way for the end user.

On top of that it's surprisingly open, enabling it to be implemented on almost any machine or OS.

It's still in its infancy and works like shit, with a bunch of browsers either having experimental, incomplete or a complete lack of an implementation (and a lack of interest thereof).

Still, i wouldn't want to have something like this go any other way.

I'm sincere in my question, because i don't want to fuck around or fight with people, i'm merely curious. How would you prefer it to be? Even if it's just a vague ideal?


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