Stolen phone -> access to finances (through password reset emails/SMS or just apps on the phone) -> no ability to pay for medicine/healthcare -> death.

Stolen phone -> post offensive things to users Twitter account -> fired from job -> lose healthcare -> death.

Stolen phone -> send violent threat against police posing as phone owner -> SWAT team shoots on sight -> death.

Every good aspect of modern life and modern medicine, technology, etc started with fundamental research that can be made to sound silly.

Some grad student studies the effects of alcohol on fish, learns something new about biology, publishes it so that other students and researchers learn about it, and a few years later after some new studies based on that initial research we get a new cancer drug.

Somebody spends $1 million studying the effects of music on dairy cows, learns that they produce more milk if calming music is played and farmers increase revenues by $10 million per year by adding speakers to their milking rooms.

The billions of dollars spent blowing up infrastructure in the middle east is just a loss, but money spent on research is how we've cured diseases, increased crop yields, launched satellites, and made it so that everyone can have a supercomputer in their pocket that can stream HD video through the air.

Another example: Studying bacterial scum in Yellowstone Park leads to the effectiveness of modern Polymerase Chain Reaction tests, the thing most people think of when they visualize a "DNA test."

That populist narrative was popular on social media, but the truth is the exact opposite.

Germany had relatively reasonable debt and government spending relative to taxes.

Italy had entirely dysfunctional spending and Greece was essentially a house of cards built on fraud. Without the Eurozone, Greece would have faced bankruptcy and/or hyperinflation, but instead they got bailed out by the rest of the EU.

Check out Michael Lewis's book Boomerang that covers the distinct problems Iceland, Ireland and Greece faced. The TL;DR on Greece is a country with massive social spending and tiny tax receipts, that took out massive and entirely unsustainable debt thanks to the other Euro countries and then inevitably was unable to pay it back.

Germany was the hero who saved the EU from complete implosion, but instead of being thanked they get misplaced anger for being the only responsible ones in the room.

classic generalization: no one I know blames all Germans, but they do blame specific banks and even individuals who profiteered and allowed the conditions for the crash to develop

>who got the 2024 Nobel Prize in Chemistry, left his VP role at DeepMind to have no reports, and be an IC

That seems like an obvious choice to make. Managing people, looking at Gantt charts, meeting with compliance & legal and all the other organizational work of management is tedious, boring and miserable. But it pays well and signals high-status, so people do it.

If you've won the Nobel Prize, you don't need any other signal of high-status and he's surely making plenty of money at Anthropic. Of course he'd choose to spend his time doing interesting work for lots of money instead of boring work.

Right, which is a data point against the "of course, these people are just greedy and want more money" narrative.

> Why would AI be any different?

The speed, the scale and the class of people impacted are all novel.

AI will likely cause massive displacement in the span of a few years which prior advancements had spread out over decades. In 1850 the US was 30% urban, in 1950 it was 64% and today it's 82%. Spreading the change out over 150 years doesn't yield the same sort of shock to the system that rapid changes do, and correspondingly doesn't result in the same sort of political force to change society.

It might be better to look not at "new technologies" but instead what happens after "sudden mass unemployment" like the Dust Bowl and Great Depression, which in turn led to unprecedented new policies like the New Deal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal).

Also relevant - the people about to be unemployed aren't the already disenfranchised lower classes. I won't be surprised if there's more sympathy from the people in power when the unemployed are their friends, family and former classmates.

Where do you imagine the power goes when you've taken it away from "the administrative state"?

I can totally understand an argument that says a certain administrative function was not working well and needed to be fixed. But if you're just suggesting destroying these institutions, what fills that power vacuum other than the far worse situation we're seeing unfolding now?

> Where do you imagine the power goes when you've taken it away from "the administrative state"?

Congress. The courts have clumsily dismantled the administrative state. But there are more options than an unchecked executive and unaccountable unelecteds.

Congress still has all the power granted to it by the constitution. They chose not to use those powers, because the republicans support the orange turd.

Congress has been delegating huge amounts of power to the administrative state (via the Executive Branch) for longer than Donald J Trump has been alive.

Any powers that congress delegates, they can pull back.

Ya, the word "transplants" here seems to mean something very different than you're interpreting it as.

This isn't a hospital procedure like an organ transplant. It's material placed into the recipients colon through an enema, nasogastric tube or possibly even just taking some pills.

So it might range from done at home to done during a 30 minute visit to a clinic.

I know it's nothing on the scale of an organ transplant, but (other than pills) those things would still lead to the patients being at the hospital. And with frequent enough visits to a hospital, you would probably eat at least some meals there. That's all I meant (and said).

I would expect any of those to be possible in a doctor's office.

Cycling has a pretty rich history of people injecting themselves with things they bought on the internet- EPO, testosterone, etc.

The bodybuilding subculture has been injecting testosterone, about 50 different testosterone-like drugs (Tren, Clen, Deca, etc) for the past 50 years, HGH for the past 30 years and IGF for the past 15 years.

The psychonaut subculture has been buying research chemical derivatives of serotonin and dopamine for decades for their psychedelic effects, and the nootropic community doing similar things for compounds that increased attention, memory or mood.

In prior decades, the transgender community often relied on buying & injecting drugs on the internet for gender affirming care they were unable to get from their healthcare systems.

There are risks, but also, if tens, hundreds or thousands of other customers have purchased and used something from the vendor, that's probably as reliable of a signal as most regulatory regimes are.

The payments are going to a government. They're not using bitcoin to hide the payments, they're using it because receiving USD or Euros or whatever would mean that a hostile government could seize the funds from the bank.

The tracking is unique though. I don't know who had the $20 in my wallet before me or what series of payments it was a part of, but crypto has the curious property that over time, essentially all crypto money will have at some point passed through wallets associated with controversial entities or transactions.

I'd rather live in a world where a student's website hosts an anonymous mean comment about me than live in the authoritarian nightmare of how the school officials, guards and police acted in this behavior.

Tea is still available on the app store, which is a far more targeted harassment and slander app, than this one that was clearly more of a 4chan style "for the lulz" that no one would take seriously.

> I'd rather live in a world where a student's website hosts an anonymous mean comment about me than live in the authoritarian nightmare of ...

False dichotomy fallacy. Also fallacy of emotive language. That is a deflection, not a rebuttal.

> Tea is still available on the app store

Whataboutism. Fallacy of relative privation. That is a deflection, not a rebuttal.

Since we're talking about worlds we'd like to live in, I'd like to live in a world where people believe that it's bad to think harassment platforms are ok/cool/fun.

The manner in which the school got the website taken down was via an authoritarian nightmare, so it's not exactly a false dichotomy in this case. If not for the authoritarian nightmare the site might still be up.

Though it's admittedly possible they could have eventually gotten the website taken down through less thuggish means.

The false dichotomy is that the two scenarios are presented as the only two options when they aren't the only two options. The use of "authoritarian nightmare" is the emotive language.

"Authoritarian nightmare" is an accurate description.

Calling this student's project a "harassment platform" is misleading, emotive language.

Tea being available is relevant! Your list of fallacies is less useful than the comment you replied to, despite its flaws.

Also using emotive language isn't a fallacy, get out of here with that. Using the phrase "authoritarian nightmare" does not replace logic with emotion like an actual fallacy would.