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What you want is a headset with fish eye lenses like the Quest 3 (not the S). Yes, it's more expensive, but you will avoid a lot of headaches with the frenel lenses. They are terrible. just buy it used.

1. Unless all you play is a sit down driving or flying simulator, the wires will get in your way. You can mitigate it with ceiling and wall pulleys, but it's still a really terrible experience that kills immersion.

2. Fitness. If you're moving and turning a lot, you're just going to hate wires. Your arms will slam into them and you'll almost trip on them and pull your computer down.

Wireless to a desktop isn't perfect, but it's doable. Stand alone is ideal if you don't the visuals being turned down a bit.


Wired is only great if you're sitting down, playing driving or flying simulators. If you ever need to turn or move, wires get annoying really fast. Even with Beat Saber, it's terrible

I agree but, my experience with wireless has been so bad that I'd rather be able to play games with a wire than avoid them without one.

I liked shooters and going from the G2 where I could actually use sniper rifles to barely being able to make out people down a corridor - wired or wireless - really killed it for me.

I have pretty much given up on VR as a result.


> It's a steep price for a niche with not a lot of games.

There are a lot of good games and unique experiences (Lone Echo). A lot of these games also get you moving i.e. you won't need to do cardio exercise if you play games. Many of these games aren't even considered fitness games

Batman

Beat Saber

Mother Gunship

Superhot

Pistol Whip

Gasland

Thrill of the Fight

Underdogs

Synth Riders

Guerilla Tag

Blade and Sorcery

Gorn

Les Mills Body Combat

FitXR

Creed

If you get a slip rig, just walking around Fallout VR or Skyrim VR will give you a lot of cardio while essentially enjoying a more immersive game than the flat screen version.

Name a popular flat screen game and there is likely a decent VR version. There are lots of good racing games and FPS's

Zero Caliber

Arizona Sunshine

Walking Dead Saints and Sinners

Bonelab

Pavlov

Breachers

Contractors

Into the Radius

Tactical Assault

It's also worth for having your own private movie theater. YouTube VR is great

There's a lot missing of games missing from my comment, and I didn't even touch on VR mods for games like Cyberpunk or even Zelda BOW

What your comment tells me is that you didn't really use VR for more than a few days.


Pistol whip, beat saber and audio trip are in my rotation. Also I expect you to die I/II/III or whatever the numbering is.

I've never understood the whole VR game ecosystem. There is a handful of titles (outside of Half Life Alyx, which even then looks pretty shit and clunky) that are worth playing on VR.

Most are short bursts of fun and don't really have any moat.


There are a lot of titles that both look great and are fun, but you wouldn't know because you don't use VR. That doesn't included mods to existing games ever since Unreal made it easier to make most games, running on their engine, VR compatible. It also depends on whether you're using standalone or PCVR. Why critique something that you're not very familiar with?

VR still has a lot of problems. Some of which may never be solved, but lack of content is no longer a problem.


Canadian salaries are terrible once you realize that the cost of living in Canada is just as high or even higher than the US, which is why a lot of Canadian engineers left for the US

This just isn't true. Yes, ratio of salary to cost of living is better in the US, setting aside the precarious immigration process, political instability, high rates of gun crime, lack of healthcare, etc. I left this reply to someone else claiming the same thing:

You can easily look up the cost of living for e.g. Vancouver:

> Cost of Living Including Rent in San Francisco, CA is 57.8% higher than in Vancouver

> Rent Prices in San Francisco, CA are 91.7% higher than in Vancouver

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou...


I was just transferred from the silicon valley to Vancouver so I have to comment...:

1. Vancouver is well regarded as one of the least affordable cities. 2. I stay in the same role but got a 40%+ pay cut so that offsets the "Cost of Living Including Rent". 3. If you compare other bay area cities (Sunnyvale, San Mateo, Fremont...) where tech workers live to Vancouver, it's not as dramatic. 4. While I support universal health care, which is good for average people in society, it's not necessarily a pro for tech workers. US tech companies buy good health insurance plans for their employees. I used to walk in my company's on-site health centers to get same-day health care in the US. In Canada, I have to wait for days to see the primary care provider and drive one hour to another provider to get exams.


Yes, I agree on all points. I have researched this a lot as I'm also planning a move to Vancouver for life reasons. I was just replying to the plainly false claim that cost of living in NYC/SF is the same as that in the most expensive cities in Canada.

Side note: if you're willing for me to ask you some questions about your move I would be really grateful.


This isn’t a good comparison because a better comparison would be the SF Bay Area (the metro) instead of just SF. Also my point is that the Canadian cost of living is comparable to the US while simultaneously having salaries that are a fraction of the US. I believe your nurses are also going south for the same reason though a few places like Vancouver have started to subsidize their housing.

Then we should compare to the Vancouver metro area, which is also cheaper.

I'm not denying that the cost of living to salary ratio is better in the US. But it is simply false to say that the cost of living in cities like Vancouver (widely considered the most expensive in Canada) is the same as SF or NYC. Rent in SF is roughly double that of Vancouver, which itself has the most expensive rent in Canada.


The Vancouver metro real estate and rent are roughly the same as the SF Bay Area while having a fraction of the pay

I only know this because we thought of relocating to Canada


I was just in Vancouver staying with some friends who had a 3 bedroom in a nice neighborhood for $3700CAD ($2700USD) per month. I know several people in SF paying that for a studio.

Beyond anecdotes, various comparison websites have rent in SF at around 100% more than Vancouver.

Obviously salaries are lower in Canada and your disposable income can very likely be lower living there if you're in tech.


For the nth time, most people who work in Silicon Valley, even the ones who work in SF, do not live in SF where the prices are more comparable to Vancouver. This is one of the major reasons we didn't move to Canada.

And not everyone who works in Vancouver lives in the city of Vancouver either. There are 10 or so other cities within commuting distance.

A fair comparison would compare areas outside of SF with areas outside of Vancouver. There are obviously some outliers like Oakland, but on average you would expect to pay 50%-100% more in rent in the Bay Area than in the Vancouver area.

There is a lot of data available online that you can find very easily. Zillow for example, regarding rent for a one bedroom:

SF average rent: $4,440 USD [1] vs. Vancouver average rent: $2,500USD [2]

Mountain view average rent: $3,395USD [3] vs Burnaby average rent: $1,989USD [4]

Union City average rent: $2400USD [5] vs Surrey average rent: $1689USD [6]

[1] https://www.zillow.com/rental-manager/market-trends/san-fran...

[2] https://www.zillow.com/rental-manager/market-trends/vancouve...

[3] https://www.zillow.com/rental-manager/market-trends/mountain...

[4] https://www.zillow.com/rental-manager/market-trends/burnaby-...

[5] https://www.zillow.com/rental-manager/market-trends/union-ci...

[6] https://www.zillow.com/rental-manager/market-trends/surrey-b...


its a matter of building a sustaining tech ecosystem: colleges, employers, investors ecosystem.

Once they figure out the ecosystem Canada can arbitrage away the broken US immigration policies and anti-immigrant bigotry.

Just as manufacturing jobs in heartland have left US for Asia, so do tech jobs can leave US for Canada, India and elsewhere


The us is not anti-immigrant, it accepts massive numbers of immigrants every year. It would be below sustainable birthrate without it.

That was before the current administration. We are already below a sustainable birth rate directly thanks to policies by Miller.

> Once they figure out the ecosystem Canada

1. It is not easy to immigrate to Canada.

2. There is also a lot of anti-immigrant sentiment in Canada even from people on the left if you’re not white. Canadians just do not like Asians anymore.

3. Canada has so much red tape for business that it forces many entrepreneurial Canadians to either gravitate towards real estate, online streaming as entertainers, or simply just move down south.


The problem with Fable is the price for performance. It’s so expensive that I typically blow through my subscription usage of it within 1-2 days. With ChatGPT Astral, I can use it full blast for almost a week. Same with Opus.

Not everyone lives within a metro that has good infrastructure. This is even more true in developing countries.

More tech people need to go places.

I was living in the eastern Caribbean ten years ago (a place that is not particularly poor), and the number of web services that could not handle a slow or unreliable connection was kind of shocking. Netflix was actually pretty impressive, they were fine to about 500kb/s with a lot of dropped packets. Below that, they were slow, but by no means unreliable. Most other sites would shit the bed on a similar connection.

Starlink has been an absolute godsend for my friends that are still down there.


How is this interesting compared to either a Mac Studio or Nvidia Spark? Did I miss something?

This is a tier above the best Mac Studio and two tiers above the Spark.

Big GPUs

Same happened to Disney Plus. The newer players skewed it a lot

No, they haven’t been complaining about this pre-AI. At least not this many people. LLMs did not invent boilerplates.

If you don’t like it and you feel it doesn’t bring value to HN, flag it.


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