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croes · 2026-09-13T14:11:02

Oh the irony

croes · 2026-09-13T03:10:47

Where is is misleading?

They changed it from we don’t do it to we want to do it.

Now you‘re one click (or maybe two if they ask for confirmation of your choice) away to let them use your data.

croes · 2026-09-13T01:32:51

Further down. Point 4 under Responsible AI

classified · 2026-09-13T01:45:06

Your private personal data and interactions are never used to train our foundation models unless you explicitly choose to help improve them.

That's practically the opposite of what your editorialized submission title says.

croes · 2026-09-13T03:08:05

No, it’s exactly what I wrote. They want to train AI on your data. I didn’t say anything about without consent or secretly but it’s a change to their previous stance where they said, they don’t do it.

Now you‘re one click away to allow them to use your data

croes · 2026-09-13T01:06:29

They changed

> We do not use our users’ private personal data or user interactions when training our foundation models.

https://web.archive.org/web/20260829051311/https://machinele...

to

> Your private personal data and interactions are never used to train our foundation models unless you explicitly choose to help improve them.

https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/introducing-third...

andsoitis · 2026-09-13T01:07:41

> unless you explicitly choose to help improve them.

Is it opt-in or opt-out? Big difference.

pixelatedindex · 2026-09-13T01:26:03

Explicitly choosing to help improve something by providing your data seems like an opt-in but what do I know these days

oefrha · 2026-09-13T01:27:42

So far Apple has been using default-checked checkbox during onboarding process for OS-level “help us improve…” diagnostics collection. Not sure about this specifically.

dented42 · 2026-09-13T01:34:49

I don’t think that counts as an automatic opt-in, given that it’s presented to the user directly during the setup process.

oefrha · 2026-09-13T01:45:07

It means my mother will have it on, at least, if they use the same pattern.

altano · 2026-09-13T01:25:55

Opt-in = explicit and opt-out = implicit. You can't have implicit opt-in, that wouldn't make any sense.

cassianoleal · 2026-09-13T01:32:40

You can't have implicit opt-out either. Opting is an explicit act.

WaltPurvis · 2026-09-13T01:39:59

The sentence prior states: "Privacy is the default, not something you have to manage."

croes · 2026-09-12T16:57:26

Does this number include the outsourcing of production to Asia and to ship the products to the US?

tmtvl · 2026-09-12T21:07:27

No chance of that and I don't know where GP found that table but it most likely doesn't account for _any_ externalities.

croes · 2026-09-12T10:50:33

It’s a great idea if you’re in reach of Russian drones

croes · 2026-09-12T10:49:08

Unless the next drought forces a shutdown of the power plant again

croes · 2026-09-12T10:47:50

With Russia‘s aggression and the rise of drone wars it’s a pretty good idea to get rod of such big single point of failures like nuclear power plants.

And climate change also isn’t in favor of nuclear power plants that need external water sources for cooling

croes · 2026-09-12T01:10:25

At some point that recklessness looks like intent

croes · 2026-09-11T12:21:25

> Users miss more content and spend less time on the platform.

And what is the effect of this on the user?

Oh right, you don't care.

For me this guy is directly repsonsible of all the negative side effects of this attention grabbing engangement BS and he should go to jail for that.

hsuduebc2 · 2026-09-11T12:42:25

This is simply 21. century Tabbaco industry with all it had. The glamour, controversy and now the fall.