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My dude, how on earth could you look at stuff like https://www.ft.com/content/f6b953fc-a6ad-48cd-bed1-d42619b57... and not realize you have completely lost the plot? Seriously...


I think the real issue in the UK is the definition of "wealthy". The government seems to think it's people making more than 50k...


In Germany it's 90k EUR, in Poland it's a mere 30k EUR gross on employment contract. No it's not a coincidence, the government knows what they're doing. In short, they are not friends with those on employment contract in private sector.

In UK though the salaries are fixed at 25k GBP annually until forever, they simply like this number.


Just for context: for an average single paying tax class 1 that’s 4.4k net per month, while the median working single earned 2.2k net in 2025.

Source: https://www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Gesellschaft-Umwelt/Einkom...


Meantime the average German billionaire, which Germany has the highest number in Europe: [awkward look monkey puppet meme]


Flock (YC S17)


Ugh. It hurts my brain to think about the Venn diagram of privacy advocates and YC sycophants that hang out on Hacker News.


YCombinator and HN would run a "Slit your mommas throat as a service" if they though there were hockey stick growth profit.

Flock, and anybody who funds them are the real domestic terrorists. Anybody who destroys these devices are patriots in my book.

And if I ever serve for jury duty over a case like that, they didn't do it.


> YCombinator and HN would run a "Slit your mommas throat as a service" if they though there were hockey stick growth profit.

While saying they're making the world a better place in the process. At least Wall Street sharks tend to be honest about their motivations and lack of giving a shit about you.


> And if I ever serve for jury duty over a case like that, they didn't do it.

Now you're bending facts. You can decide they are not guilty of a crime, but you can't make them have not done it.


He’s referencing jury nullification.

Juries actually can “make them have not done it”, although that’s been used for good and ill purposes.


"Not guilty" does not mean "did not do it" - it means "the state didn't prove that they did it beyond a reasonable doubt."


Yea and that’s effectively “did not do it” when it comes to anything involving consequences.

It was obvious what the rhetorical point `nekusar was making. I’ll give you the pedantic point of being technically correct when looking at it from a gods eye view.


But for the purposes of doing something in protest like destroying flock cameras, the person doesn't want to be known as not doing it. They want people to know they did it, and why they did it. They want the cred. So saying they didn't do it is not helping the cause. Accepting they did it while returning not guilty is the desired outcome. Having juries return not guilty verdicts when someone very clearly did something is a good step in having stupid laws overturned. Even if they don't get removed, it shows police and prosecutors that that juries are not going to convict for this type of case. You'd have to be a Jeanine Pirro type to be willing to bring cases that are known losers. Rational prosecutors will not.


Exactly.

I think as a citizen and a 2x juror, that it is our responsibility first to determine if a law should be a law for all. Secondly, if the law passes scrutiny, ONLY then should we determine guilt or innocence.

I am highly disincentivised in seeing victimless crimes as crimes. Like drug usage and all that. Or destruction of horrific security appratus like Flock.

Simply put, the laws wrong. And that means 'Not Guilty' for anyone I would have to judge, even if they admitted it in open court.

(I'm also aware that jury nullification has also been used to find black lynching perpetrators to be not guilty of the same nullification. I said that I judge a law if it should be. Murder is pretty clearly not victimless, but extenuating circumstances like self defense are a thing. Lynching is terrible, and so is freeing lynching perpe-traitors.)


And you're just being a pedant, aiming for the worst kind of correct.


nope, read my response lower in this thread before your knee jerk reaction

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49158933


You're being a pedant because it's a common saying to say "if they did it, no they didn't". Everyone knows what is meant by saying it. Going through all of those words to explain what everyone already knows is what it means to be a pedant.


If you really want to nitpick, juries are what settle questions of facts.


You can agree that the person did the act yet still find them not guilty. The fact is still the fact. As someone else stated, not guilty does not mean they did not do it. It just means they do not want to say they are guilty. There's only two options. If if you do not choose "guilty" the only option remaining is "not guilty".


Money is a nice balm for cognitive dissonance.


Human rights are really important to us!*

*As long as it doesn't prevent us from getting rich.


not a good look for YC


It's distinctively American, that even when faced with the most American thing ever, a Tech startup funded by capitalists, they compare it to China.


The dude making the challenge is just as nuts. I am a Left person and it's astonishing how alienated I feel by Labour.


This is honestly one of the only instances where I am like "you're an idiot for reporting this". The amount of reach, provided the feeds can indeed be overriden, is absolutely insane. Paired with how shitty of an org FIFA is, I personally would have just leaked this.


As much as I like being butt fucked, I dont wanna go to prison :3


Also, I am not much of a football gal myself, so I didn't know they were a shitty org.


I have never flown with them only because they're the only airline I have come across that forces you to create an account to buy a ticket.


> Cronin further explained why MV2 extensions are no longer allowed in supported Chrome versions as maintaining the associated functionality indefinitely is no longer possible. He cited growing technical difficulties and implementation complexities as well as security concerns.

You know what else is a security concern? Ads. The amount of mental gymnastics is insane. It's honestly insulting.


It's ironic seeing this here since Flock is YCombinator company.


Surveillance and privacy invasion is profitable, so not ironic at all.


I dunno if it is ironic. Most of us recognize that technology itself is a tool. It can be used in any number of ways including ones in which some portions of the population may disagree with.


I don't know about that, nothing about their pitch indicated anything but what their technology is currently used for.


I will give you a weird, but current, example. TSLA ( and virtually all companies that center on Musk as its director -- in the original sense of the word before HR title inflation took it down ) may say one thing about what the plan for the tech is, but, even occasional review of their positioning shows that the "what their technology is currently used for" is in near constant flux. Honestly, the fact that his investors keep rewarding it is beyond me.


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