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One understated outcome of Trump 2.0 is waking up some sections of the European intelligentsia to the risk of dependency on the United States.

Trump 1.0 should've been enough, but instead European leaders were just too thankful for a Biden back-to-normal scenario that they basically took no action allowing the US to further extend its dominance.

Better late than never. Incidentally, trying to build EU tech independence should produce job making industries, so can become a populist move also


> basically took no action allowing the US to further extend its dominance.

I love this. Do you think everything is in Europe's control? Do you know anything about the US has operated since WW2? Have you noticed the mismatch in economic and military might between the two regions?

And what about all the US military bases in Europe? Do you think it's simply a case of asking them to please leave within 1 year, thanks, goodbye.

They've had us in a headlock for a very very long time


It’s a mismatch we’ve been asking Europe to do something about for 30+ years. Instead, they decided to turn their countries into third world refugee camps.

yeah true. Still, the primary problem was lack of consciousness about this state of affairs, especially at leadership level. One thing Trump 2.0 does take off the mask on this. It's a start

Because Trump has 2.5 years left and they may be hoping a Democrat wins

Trump was elected. Twice. It was not a fluke, not a once in a lifetime event, he's a symptom of wider processes happening in the US. The world has changed and the old order is not coming back

Trump is one thing but the overall dynamic of similar politicians gaining footholds across the world is what worries me. If everyone is X nation first in the same way, you lose the ability to negotiate with compromises, people want to start expanding their borders and that just escalates into war.

We're already seeing that in a few cases but it just stands to get worse if this carries on.


Half the countries in Europe has their own Trump-equivalent politician heading one of the largest parties, and yet Europeans are imagining it's something happening "in the US" while they sleepwalk into disaster.

Yes, and: these are the same picture. They're all promoted by Russian-backed influencers on US-owned social media, or indigenous US racists. We've got Elon inciting race riots in Belfast now; several people left homeless after they were firebombed out.

A lot of this was laundered through Hungary: https://www.politico.eu/article/hungary-viktor-orban-favorit... ; hopefully some of those involved can be jailed by the incoming administration for misusing government funds.


I am European and I am all too aware that the trend exists here as well. I am just hoping that a majority will now be able to see what disasters that road can lead to.

Mostly it’s a symptom of Democrats nominating the two most unliked people in politics.

When the choices are “unlikable person” and “straight up agent of chaos set on destroying the US in every way he can” and you choose the latter, that’s on you.

I think people like trump because the idea of burning it all to the ground and starting over sounds nice. It’s a very simple solution to a very complex problem, and dumb people really gravitate towards that.

Of course they never really considered what “burn it all down” meant. It meant all, nobody is safe. No business is safe.


Does it matter who is president? The US was spying on European leaders before Trump's first term:

"According to the investigation, which covered the period from 2012 to 2014, the NSA used Danish information cables to spy on senior officials in Sweden, Norway, France and Germany, including former German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier and former German opposition leader Peer Steinbrück."

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-security-agency-spie...


Everybody always spies on everybody else. Even it only to check what they are really thinking.

That is all the more reason for governments not to rely on foreign suppliers.

Europe - the place that produced Nokia, Palm, Skype - should have erected a Great Firewall in 2000's. Instead, it bought into the idea of an open internet and ended up getting assimilated into US tech eco-system. This seemed harmless at the time, but Trump 2.0 has exposed it as a catastrophic strategic mistake.

Not too late - perhaps EU will get through EU AI Act / GDPR and similar barricade of red tape?


Why pay developers as much as their American counterparts (instead of 3-6x less), when you can build "a wall". That will fix things!

US can create dollars out of thin air, can't compete with that. The regulatory wall is required, the alternative is subservience, which tbh is broadly acceptable to most Europeans I think

> Palm

wat


I can't tell anymore if this satire or not, because there are more than few people who actually believe isolationism and red tape such as the AI Act or GDPR is beneficial to the EU's economic welfare.

Does anyone remember Path?

Limit circle social network, I think capped at 50 people. Beautiful app, and I remember it was a great place to spend time when you really just wanted to be with true friends.

Time for someone to reboot this


I honestly liked the Google+ circles thing too, felt like a similar idea.

It is inevitable that the United States will inevitably become a renewable energy superpower - tapping geothermal in Yellowstone, covering deserts with solar across South West, flying tethered wind turbines in Tornado Alley, Nuclear power stations up and down both coast lines, transcontinental high voltage transmission lines delivering power to everywhere that needs it. The Trump moment is all about whether this happens in 20 years or 100.

sad news - they invented the category but let the lead go to Chinese competitors who now trounce them on price and quality.

Should be simple matter to escalate this up to the President, who will put the squeeze on the Dutch government, and then secure his 10% fee for rescuing the take over deal


Positive view: Trump is connecting the people closer to policy, which in a way is what all systems of government should be doing.

Negative view: Trump is re-routing political power around any remaining checks and balances that exist in the current system.


Private foreign tech companies need to be come under the jurisdiction of the governments that they operate in. We'd all love to be in a world of open source, open web, open AI but that has become a naive vision which is very far from what we have today. Canada is right, but so too is Signal. What Canada needs it is own sovereign tech stack - it can only start with de facto national firewalls ike this


finally, a decent guide for proper Mahjong!


Contrary to the report, they are actually not difficult to keep as pets - they are just highly sensitive to pollutants in the water.

The unfortunate case for the wild population, is that they naturally inhabit a location which today has one of the highest human population densities in the world, and hence massive pressure on water resources. We could probably quite easily re-establish a breeding population in remote areas in Europe but would constitute an invasive species and hence wouldn't happen.

As a species, they are not endangered due to their very large populations now in the pet trade (though these then get inbred, become domesticated etc).


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