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We must be operating in completely different circles, because I can’t remember the last time I came across someone that didn’t prefer buttons in a lot of sensible scenarios.


Try Ocenaudio - I’ve used pretty much every audio editor free and paid for and this is my go to for a free editor.

I also cannot understand why anyone would recommend Audacity.


Hehe ditto

I get flak for this, but Audacity is my "proof" that GIMP's name is why people don't use it, not the UI.

Like GIMP, Audacity's UI is awful, but people still use it. :)


I used audacity 20 years ago and the interface is still the same. That is also worth something.


people use gimp too. and i bet there are more gimp users than audacity.

as for the UI, i don't get it. what's so bad about it? and how is this one better? i looked at both and ardour too. so far audacity is the only one that has a feature to detect silence and label it. it's pretty easy to use too. i use this to detect chapters and create a chapter index for audio books. last one i did this week took only a few minutes, and most of the time was typing the chapter titles into audacity. i could not figure out how to do this in ardour or audiomass


Have you tried Ocenaudio (which is roughly the same as old school Cool Edit/Audition?)

Far more intuitive, I think. Keyboard shortcuts and cutting and pasting similar to what you'd get in e.g. Word.


I spend a lot of time doing this too -- cutting up band rehearsal tapes into songs and exporting all. As weird as Audacity's UI is, I haven't found anything better than it at this.


Again, try Ocenaudio. I'm old enough to have used Cool Edit/Adobe Audition. Similar flow to those.


i tried it. i could not find any functionality to detect silence. also no way to label selections. or do i use regions for that? it says mp3 does not support regions. no way to export a list of regions with timestamps.

i spent about 15 minutes trying to figure out the above. in audacity the whole book was done in 5 minutes.

also, i really don't get what is supposed to be better about that interface. both apps have text menus with lots of functions, and you have to know what the functions do by their name. that makes ocenaudio no easier than audacity in my opinion. and it's not even FOSS.


Ocenaudio is closed source, that may be one of the reasons someone might recommend Audacity over it.


I remember these very well from when they first came out, I particularly liked Keyboards and Computer Music and would spend ages working out what synth/drum machine that they had tried to draw as they somewhat abstracted the design away.

Loved them and they really did spark an interest in taking music and computing more seriously.


You are correct. (Had it verified years ago in Europe and the US).


Same here. I love it, I have lots of “normal” equipment as well but it’s not quite as fulfilling as modular.

The only slight downside is I often do it on my own away from the family.


Do you mean because you can’t use Elixir/Phoenix for work? Because I don’t quite understand, doing a big project and learning/using a particular tech stack should have many transferable skills.


The drywall wall is stronger, heavier thicker stuff and sometimes doubled up. We also often use steel work as the studs (particularly good professionals) as it’s stronger and faster than wood to put up. Then all the wiring is in conduits, and it’s acceptable to put water feeds on the outside of walls in the room for servicing. Then it comes to our bathrooms which are proper wet rooms and usually built to a very high standard to meet insurance needs.

I watch a lot of building videos from the US, it’s eyeopening watching for someone used to better construction methods.

The construction of UK inner walls is even better, it”s often plaster applied on plasterboard/drywall usually by skilled trades. Very strong.


Running conduit for electrical wiring in a house is a huge waste of labor and material. PVC insulation and a nylon jacket is just fine for 2.5mm^2 (#14AWG) conductors, which is what 90% of the wiring in a house will be.

The only place that conduit is mandatory in residences in the US is Chicago.

Hell, most office buildouts in the US use very minimal amounts of conduit, most of the lightning and receptacle branch circuits are metal-clad cable (MC cable).


Would love to see this. Though I wonder if Bambu will try and shut it down


Looks great, going to download and try it. Thanks!


I also like Jenkins. I think you can turn it into a mess, but in the right hands it’s a powerful tool.


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