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And that’s why i keep ubuntu far from my computers…

aye! 'twas so jolly in ye ol' days when only the master could afford a large computer! /s

/u/znpy gets it! :)

scraping content is mostly legal, redistributing content is not.

if you started doing the same to, say, instagram content both meta and individual creators would sue you as well.

sites like archive.ph are in a similar bucket btw, and yet nobody's complaining (except websites seeing people evading their paywall). but at the end of the day it's not really fair to apply laws differentially on the basis of whose political ideas we like more.


The copyright implications of displaying Instagram content elsewhere are still unclear. There were many lawsuits over Instagram embeds. https://copyrightlately.com/legal-embed-instagram-photos-web...

Meta has no exclusive rights to the content on Instagram, and X has no exclusive rights to the content on X. They have a non-exclusive license to republish it, etc.

>scraping content is mostly legal, redistributing content is not.

So, I take it some Twitter users took an issue with their tweets being redistributed by another platform and sued XCancel?

Because surely you're not claiming that Twitter has any ownership of what gets posted on that platform, are you?

>if you started doing the same to, say, instagram content both meta and individual creators would sue you as well.

By that logic, Meta could sue me for posting my photos on other platforms.

Meta doesn't have a case here, and neither does Twitter, but something tells me Twitter is involved in this nevertheless.


1. No advertising

2. A well defined recommendation algorithm, with parameters can tune to fit my taste

3. Separate sections for discovering new content, to see content from people i follow and to see content from people i know irl

4. Possibly of completely reset the learning “the algorithm” has done about me


Would you like to stay in touch over email about your ideas? My email is in my profile.

In other words: “guy on top says no more guys should try and get on top”

I don’t believe it’s purely “screen time” but rather a mix of what is on that screen as well as the standard that students are kept on at school.

I used to come back from school and spend my day in front of the computer (crt screen and everything) but my screen time was much higher quality that modern day kids. Also, back in my day there was no moronic “no child left behind” kind of policy: if you needed to repeat a year of school, you just did. It felt harsh in the moment but looking back oh boy it was the correct thing to do.


“if you needed to repeat a year of school, you just did. It felt harsh in the moment but looking back oh boy it was the correct thing to do.”

Was it really? My read of the research is its mixed at best, and most effective at younger grades with targeted interventions.

I never repeated a grade though, is your assertion based on experience or how are we defining “correct”?


> My read of the research is its mixed at best

Research is irrelevant, we have empirical evidence now: new generations can’t read and show overall lower cognitive abilities.


Because they weren’t held back in school? Not… you know…. Gestures everywhere

But really, if we failed the first time, what makes you think we’ll be more successful the second?


“Gestures everywhere” really? Is that your argument?

Actually the second part was my argument. But gestures everywhere isn’t a bad backup.

look I admit a sort of charming romance in the idea Of a stricter more conservative education system, I just don’t think the data supports such simple remedies.


When reality and data disagree, data is clearly wrong.

Yeah, I didn’t read a lot of books in high school (do read a lot more books as an adult!), but I did read a lot of information while sitting at a desktop computer.

We run litellm at work and not once anybody cared about those 700mb.

I do the same but you have to understand that some people just can’t get over the fact somebody else has different opinions, different takes on life or software and decide to chart and walk their own path at their own pace.

Btw ggwp to dhh and omarchy’s team.

Ormarchy/arch is not my cup of tea but kudos to them for doing their own thing.


So diverse, so inclusive! /s

If liberals were really into DEI, they'd include the rapists, the pedophiles, the morons, the Nazis, the fascists, etc...

Real representation requires effort.

This is one of those statements you absolutely cannot interpret as satire.


If this is closed source then i have zero interest in it.

I believe multigress is the similarly aged open equivalent from Supabase. Haven't used it myself and don't know what the differences are in usability, but I'm a bit more interested in that since it's open.

Neki right now:

Multiple live shards: yes

Query routing across shards: yes

Online shard splitting: yes

Zero-downtime resharding: yes

Multiple independent shard groups: yes

Data topology management: yes

HA / automated failover: yes

Multi-AZ: yes

Connection pooling: yes

Online schema changes: yes

Workflow-driven migrations/cutovers: yes

Zero-downtime imports: yes

CDC / logical replication: yes

Online Postgres version upgrade workflows: yes

Cross-shard transactions: coming

Multigres today:

Multiple live shards: no

Query routing across shards: no

Online shard splitting: no

Resharding: no

Multiple shard groups: no

HA / failover: yes

Multi-AZ: yes

Connection pooling: yes

Logical replication/import work: in progress

Distributed migration/resharding workflows: no

How it is an it's an alternative? Do you just say things without validating?


Hey, just to clarify: i’m not the person you’re responding to (my comment is gp comment) and i’m not criticising your product and your work. It truly is a great achievement.

However, in general i would not trust a product that is not open source (foss).

I do like what grafana has been doing for example, with licensing options at the two extremes: gpl/lgpl v3 on one side and proprietary hosted saas version on the other.

We run our own grafana/lgtm stack at work, we’re outgrowing it and we’re evaluating the saas offerings.

But then again, not criticising your work and product, you know better than me about it and about your business, just writing down my proverbial two cents.


Comes off a bit rude, especially from the CEO.

I get that PlanetScale has the currently superior product, and I listed the closest thing to it. You're right it's not ready, but in the case that the parent had mentioned of closed-source making it a deal breaker, it's the best alternative.

Neki looks like a good product, and I trust that something coming from the folks behind Vitess is going to be a damn fine offering, but some of us don't love tying our workloads to fully proprietary products. I wouldn't even want to host something like this myself, but knowing there's a path out of the proprietary hosting (which we've seen time and time again is something we should plan for) is critical for a lot of us when choosing solutions as important as our data layer.

If I needed a truly sharded PG at the moment, Neki is probably the best option I could find.

As for the "alternative" argument specifically, it's not on par at the moment, you're right, but that's their goal and they're attempting to fill the same void. In the case of someone who has a requirement their solution be open source, then Neki is flat out of the running too.

I'm rooting for a good Postgres sharding solution to come out. Your team appears to be doing some good work. I would also like to see where both Neki and Multigres are in five years.


Not being rude, I just do not like the work of my company being written off and under appreciated with comments like yours. Saying it's an open source alternative when it is clearly not is incredibly disingenuous.

Anyone can start a project and say it's an alternative until it achieves the same results is not an alternative. They have raised 10x more venture funding than my company, and we have out executed them with hard work. I will absolutely defend that work.

Supabase hire companies to write fake AI slop to slander competitors. https://dev.to/sivarampg/how-a-neutral-supabase-vs-convex-co... They also claim ownership over projects they dont contribute to https://x.com/jrdntgn/status/2022003873171620160 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45321794 (they have no vitess maintainers on staff now and they did not then either)

This is who you are carrying water for.


> I just do not like the work of my company being written off and under appreciated with comments like yours

Not sure how I wrote your product off. I spoke about how it wasn't open, which it isn't.

> Anyone can start a project and say it's an alternative until it achieves the same results is not an alternative. They have raised 10x more venture funding than my company, and we have out executed them with hard work. I will absolutely defend that work.

Good on your team. I believe the animosity here is mostly in our differing opinions of the word "alternative".

> This is who you are carrying water for.

I am not "carrying water". I listed another company. I've never used a Supabase product.

All this because I mentioned something that was open and in the same lane as your new product.

How's this: I won't refer to it as an alternative because it isn't up to at feature parity yet. That's fair. I will however say that you've taken multiple angles unrelated to the original core of my first reply's parent that was that Neki is not open source. That is true and many of us will see it as a downside when chosing a product. That isn't bad. That's just a thing that is.


unfortunately they haven't been able to move forward w/ the project, it can't even shard yet

It appears to be under active development, but you're right that sharding doesn't appear implemented. I'm excited to see what they can build out over the next few years.

What company do you work for that makes its tech decisions based purely on ideology without regard to engineering merits?

Someone posted a twitch conversation yesterday about this, I poked around on the page realised there was no open source version and noped out immediately.

I'm sure it's a great product (it seems like planetscale do good engineering and the folks I know who use them seem fine with it) but I don't do vendor lock-in as a service personally, I'll use whatever employer uses because that's the deal but for personal stuff, well this isn't designed for that really, wrong order of magnitude on scaling.


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