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Well discrimination is illegal, and the the Department of Labor will sue you if your numbers are bad like Google's. https://www.fastcompany.com/3066914/innovation-agents/google... Google spent a quarter-Billion dollars trying to improve diversity for apparently no gains. It's an important thing to get right, and after a company grows to a certain point it takes a lot of effort to change.


That's because Google is a federal contractor. Companies are not required to provide this data to DoL otherwise.


That's true, it goes a lot further for government contractors. They are even required to implement affirmative action plans if their numbers are too far off. But you can still be sued or criminally charged for specific acts of discrimination even if you're not a government contractor.


That's true, but if the company has a non-discrimination policy, communicates it, and enforces it, those kinds of suits are difficult to win.

Managing that policy isn't normally a separate position.


Honest not antagonistic question, why is it important to get right?


Because then your employees can make it into the all-important business stock photos, and be PowerPoint stars forever.~

If companies cared about real diversity rather than the illusion of diversity, they would blind their own interview process to any factors not directly related to job duties.

A truly diverse company can potentially produce a wider variety of creative options, as a lesser overlap in skills and experiences produces greater coverage of a problem space with the same number of people investigating it. It isn't just about age, sex, color, or religion. It's about the cities lived in, the neighbors barely tolerated, the pets kept, the hobbies enjoyed, the music listened to, the crazy acquaintance stories, the routes taken on the daily commute, and quite a lot of other things selected against when seeking out "culture fit".

Otherwise, "head of diversity" sounds like a nice, cushy sinecure, with a gratuitously large budget to waste. Diversity is the responsibility of the entire personnel/HR department, and can't be meaningfully delegated to one figurehead.


If companies cared about real diversity rather than the illusion of diversity, they would blind their own interview process to any factors not directly related to job duties.

That would be good for cases when you need someone who can jump in immediately, and you have their job requirements nailed down ahead of time. But sometimes you need to gauge a person's potential for growth into a position. And as FT_intern pointed out, often you want to know how the person will do with a particular team. That's really hard to do in a blind test.


Essentially saying that the biases of individual teams trump the diversity goals of the entire company?

Blind testing is not so difficult that it isn't worth doing. Last week, the spouse and I did a blind taste test of nine different beers. We got someone else to pour them into numbered cups and rated the contents of the cups without pre-existing biases. You just have to interview in such a way that no one can see the candidates' labels.

Would it really be that awful to use a telepresence robot with text-to-speech in an interview? That would allow the candidate to see and hear everybody else, but no one would know anything about them other than what they typed in a chat box.


It's both more effective and a remediation of past discrimination. Bear in mind this is only an obligation insofar as companies wit to contract with governmental entities.


There are laws that prohibit discrimination even for private companies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_discrimination_law_...


Remedying past discrimination is not any company's responsibility, not by a long shot.


Have you tried reading comments all the way to the end before replying? I wrote two sentences in the post above, and the second one addressed that very objection.


You'll miss out on less talent. Your teams will be better at problem-solving if they have diverse backgrounds and outlooks (not just genetic "heritage" but that can be a half-decent proxy). You're not going to contribute to racism, sexism etc in society at large which might be driving groups apart culturally or denying certain opportunities to certain groups of people. And the DoL won't sue you :)


> You'll miss out on less talent.

This is assuming that the diverse candidates who actually have talent aren't being hired. That's the argument you need to be making

> Your teams will be better at problem-solving if they have diverse backgrounds and outlooks

If you want teams that are better at problem-solving, why don't you directly judge applicants based on their problem-solving abilities in a team environment instead of using diversity as a proxy for problem solving ability (which has not been proven at all)?


That's one interpretation.

The other, more probable interpretation is that it is a pipeline problem. Try comparing their demographics with Bay Area, top school and CS demographics.


It's probably not a pipeline problem. https://www.cnet.com/news/when-tech-firms-judge-on-skills-al... Anyway, tech companies spend a lot of money and effort trying to reshape the pipeline to direct talent their way. https://blog.twitter.com/2015/we-re-committing-to-a-more-div... For schools, I'm not sure where to find that data, but I did see that Berkeley's "diversity" class had a higher completion rate and higher average GPA than the other students taking the same course. https://eecs.berkeley.edu/cs-scholars This demonstrates that a quarter billion dollars could effectively address any pipeline problem, if there is one.

Edit: These numbers vary wildly for other companies in the same location, so I'm not sure a comparison with them proves anything. https://hackerlife.co/blog/tech-companies-diversity/San-Fran...




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