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I think it will be the death of society and culture if rank areas of study by ROI. Businesses need engineers and accountants, but society needs philosophers, artists, musicians and social scientists. It's about the balance between those two.

Actually, I am not sure what its like in the United States. Are only the rich allowed to study art or theater?



Why would anyone poor study it assuming that person is not a grnius in the area?

It seems like a fantastic way to continue the income hardships your parents endured, even if college (and dorm) is free.

I am against an heavy discrimination of pricing/subsidizing based on major/area, but not because of the argument 'poor people wouldn't study art', that's a weak argument.


> Why would anyone poor study it assuming that person is not a grnius in the area? It seems like a fantastic way to continue the income hardships your parents endured, even if college (and dorm) is free.

I know a few that are studying art or music and are definitly not wealthy. A former roommate studies music and her parents are old-school lower working-class. They know they're not going to make much money. They are doing it anyway. It's their life. Also, nobody knows whether they're a genius or not, it's harder to quantify than mathmatical abilities, at least in some areas. A lot of the art-students I know are fully aware of their prospects. I am currently taking some philosophy-seminars and the philosophy-majors are also not ignorant of the situation they're in.

An art-student I know recently married and it's going to be hard to raise kids because she's the only one that is going to make some money, at least consistenly. And she's a teacher, so it's also not much. We talked about it, it's not that he doesn't know.

Most of my friends are not doing something technical, or business-realted (art, music, literature) and I always feel lucky (or undeserving?) because I just don't have those existential problems while still doing something that I chose because I really wanted to. I have always chosen stuff because I had the inner drive to do it.

> but not because of the argument 'poor people wouldn't study art', that's a weak argument.

I think that's still a perfectly valid arguments, especially with art.

To finish my argument, I don't know how most of the would finance themselfs if they would have to heavily borrow money to study their subject. And I think society benefits heavily from them. They tour around giving concerts, organizing art-installations etc.


Pretty much and it's why there is a huge cultural exodus to Europe from America


is there? I am not arguing there isn't but I would be interested in hearing more, or see data about this.




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