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Why do we expect to get better mortality data in the US than other countries?


I don't think many people knowing the facts are expecting that. It's that people, including me, dread the moments when the facts become manifest. This will prove us right but I will take no comfort in that confirmation. On the off chance that these (implausible sounding) arguments turn out right, well, woohoo, great.


Finishing the math on this is very sobering which is why I was intrigued by the original post.

I truly hope John Ioannidis is correct and SARS-CoV-2 is not as virulent. We are about to see in the next week or so.


The big thing is he's making a big assumption that there's some natural limit to the total infection rate that can be achieved by the virus - less than 100% and less than the 30% of the cruise ship. That seems plausible but it's essentially based on zero evidence. Diseases have wiped out societies so there's no rule I can saying Covid couldn't achieve a disastrous 30% penetration of the population. No country has had the guts just say "let's see how far this can go" and fortunately so.

An extreme worst case would be maybe 3% of the population dying. The Syrian civil war killed 2% of the Syrian population over several years, so this sounds bad. But US regular death rate is about 0.88% you could fudge and claim people would barely notice. But Covids is a very messy death and would destroy the health care system, which people would notice.


Social distancing and hygiene hopefully contribute to fewer exposures and therefore fewer fatalities. Especially those 65+ with underlying conditions such as hypertension and diabetes.


Ah yes, the United States, where our incidence of hypertension, diabetes, obesity, and heart disease are so low.




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