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I will out myself to some folks, and hope they keep me pseudo-anonymous :). I rescinded my Google offer to take another which had a more personally meaningful role and paid significantly higher (I think 50% higher?).

Google then put me on a call with a "senior" recruiter who said they'd beat the offer no question, which would have had me start at N level but be paid at the upper end of N+1 level. I refused.

Then they proceeded to tell me how my interview scores were barely passable. How my work will be meaningless at this other FAANG. Meanwhile the actual recruiter I worked with was on the call and stated disappointment but was respectful.

Now to this day, every year or so, a Google recruiter reaches out to me asking me to consider a role because my interview performance was so great.

So I follow the line of, if an employer gives me respect I will give it back 2x. If they disrespect me or violate a personal boundary, then I prioritize myself. This has resulted in many employers who love me, and a few who I imagine despise me. I recommend others do the same. I arrived here after many years of therapy and consequently find work more enjoyable.



With all the companies I interviewed with in the past, Google was the one where it seems no one managing the process gave a damn about the candidates. I swore off working for them just based on that.


Great username. I’d like to think that you’re working from the inside to take the whole system down :~)

A few questions:

1. What does giving it back 2x mean? You work overtime voluntarily or something like that?

2. Is what you’re describing a type of self-care or confidence? Trying to understand what your recommendation is and how to put it to action because it sounds great.

3. If you were serious about the therapy comment, can I ask what concrete steps you took in therapy to build up this confidence/self-care? What did you discuss with your therapist?


Yeah this resonates with my experience with a group at Apple. When I declined an offer the hiring manager made all sorts of deeply personal attacks seemingly trying to bully me into accepting the offer. I bet this stuff isn't all that uncommon, especially at the FAANGs where hiring managers are probably not used to hearing "no".




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