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I'm glad other systems offer it as an option for people who enjoy it. I can't fathom the decision process that permanently enabled it for everyone.


They made the feature, they’re gonna enable it or nobody would use it and it would have been a waste of time making

You’re really gonna hate the fact that 99% of people think this is what stuff on their digital television is supposed to look like.

(Which is exactly why Roku did it)


Which is why Roku decided to take away the option to disable it for people who understand and notice the effect and actively don't want it?

Pardon me, it makes zero sense at all.


I was trying to say that we’re in an extreme minority; they didn’t even think more than ten people would disable it. What’s the reason that makes sense? They forgot?


There were way more than 10 people who read, commented on, and liked that Verge article.

Both your assumptions (that we're an extreme minority, and that Roku thinks that way) seem to be only supported by the conclusion you make from them.

All that said, putting the feature in enabled by default and seeing how many people end up disabling it would be how they could be grounded in reality and avoid creating a shitstorm.

Put another way, the best explanation for a metric not being collected is that it's not going to reflect well on the decision-makers.

A way more realistic scenario than what you suggest (i.e. that it doesn't hurt Roku, or even makes business sense) is that it's an outcome of a promotion-driven development.

Someone's getting a promotion for launching that "feature", and statistics that show that people turn it off the moment they realize it's there wouldn't bode well with that.

Instead, it appears that the new feature has a 100% adoption rate among the targeted userbase.

Modern problems require modern solutions, you know.


Yeah, we are not an extreme minority. My wife - who really doesn’t notice SD vs HD, let alone 4k, if the aspect ratio is correct for the screen - went ape when we got a TV with motion smoothing.

I said yeah, I hate that too, give me a few minutes to fix it, believe me I don’t want it.


I don’t think I know of _anyone_ who prefers it on.


I don't either, but you've got to be a close friend before I'm watching TV at your house, and I don't pretend that my close friends are a randomly selected portion of the populace.

Most people probably don't notice it, or just think "that's the way TVs are now".


If you have to force people to turn it on, maybe it sucks and you shouldn't waste your time developing it.


That's just not true. My non-Roku TV has this as an option alongside dozens of others I can turn on and off.

I'm gonna need to see some data on that. The nearly universally description I hear from regular, non-techie people is "my TV started looking weird", especially when they're watching content they're familiar with. If a brand new movie or show looked like this and that's the only way I'd ever seen it, fine, so be it. I remember seeing "Raiders of the Lost Ark" in soap opera mode on our then-new TV and thinking "WTF is this and how do I turn it off?". That's not what Indiana Jones movies are supposed to look like.


> I'm gonna need to see some data on that.

It’s enabled by default on all smart TVs. Q.E.D.




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