Nothing fits in this category, it's revolutionary (if you ignore every electric SUV on the market) !!

Buyers who got an expensive and gaudy pile of shit will never want to admit their pile of shit doesn't smell to themselves.

i didnt care about looks. i just cared that it did the things I needed

based on your other comments, you don't appear to be all that savvy in evaluating what things on the market did the things you claim to have needed

Huh? What specific car would you recommend given the needs I stated?

I have another box on my checklist:

[x] $94K and $52K deprecation in the first 5 years.

FSD was a big draw for me. have you used the latest on hw4 cars?

As crazy as this might sound to some people these days, I actually like driving.

i do too but not when hauling kids and bikes and stuff. i'll buy a separate sports car to take on country roads or the track