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Yeah, well, good luck convincing, say, chinese farmers not to give tons of antibiotics to their livestock. Nobody is interested reducing pharmaceuticals' revenue either. On a side note, take into account we didn't have antibiotics centuries ago, and people just lived. Endure whatever comes, just live. And don't look so shocked, we have democracy and we're surrounded by morons, the shocking thing is that there's still any prosperity at all.


Yeah, well, good luck convincing, say, chinese farmers not to give tons of antibiotics to their livestock

This is also a problem in North America. Try buying a simple disinfectant (e.g. for small cuts) that doesn't contain antibiotics.


I think you're thinking of antiseptics or disinfectants, not antibiotics. Resistance to these is not such a problem, and many work on a level that it would be very hard for a microorganism to develop resistance to (for example, by physically destroy the organism).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiseptic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinfectant


He was most likely referring to one of the many products that ineffectively use antibiotics instead of antiseptics. One such example is Neosporin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neosporin#Efficacy


Sadly, he's probably not thinking of antiseptics or disinfectants. Manufacturers have started putting antibiotics in consumer products (especially soaps) because there are a lot of consumers who don't know any better.


Or ggp is talking about Neosporin (and other triple antibiotic ointments).

But peroxide and iodine and rubbing alcohol are all also available, and plain petroleum jelly is available. And then most small cuts should probably just be washed with soapy water and left open to the air.

(also, the Wikipedia roundup on triclosan suggests it isn't a problem yet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triclosan#Resistance_concerns

Not that it is particularly useful to put it in soap)


Wow, I didn't actually realtors that's what Neosporin was. I'm from he UK, where antibiotics are heavily controlled and, though I lived for a fair amount of time in the USA, I guess my bias made me not even consider that could be the case. Crazy.

Having said that, even with what ie now learned, I think it's still the case that _most_ disinfectants and antiseptics, even in the USA, are not antibiotics.

Thanks for the correction, I certainly learned something.


A lot of people just died without antibiotics.

Nobody is saying this will destroy the human race or anything like that. Clearly, as a species, we don't need this stuff. But it will be a huge negative change for individuals.


> take into account we didn't have antibiotics centuries ago, and people just lived

For some values of "lived", including "often died of things that today are trivial".


Hey! We have improved quality of life and expected lifespan quite a bit since then, and antibiotics were a big part of that change.


> On a side note, take into account we didn't have antibiotics centuries ago, and people just lived.

Yeah, but you could die from a small wound in the leg or something.




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