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> if you're holding one orange and I ask for your first orange then you give me that one, in your first hand. I'm over-emphasising but the point is that no zeroes are involved.

No ones are involved either. I don't have a "first" hand and when you request a first orange, you're just asking for the head of the ordered set.



I get it, believe me I do, but pedantry aside, we know how any non-computer scientist or programmer would address the initial item of any sequence (indeed the same way a mathematician would).




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