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> And depending on who's looking at the material, it could be considered offensive. If you get away with it, great but some companies like USAA require all employees and contractors pass drug tests so suggesting the universal stoner hour might not be the best decision.

Just to be clear, you're saying that:

    - The time "4:20" might be offensive to a reader,
    - I should, for some reason, care about this,
    - USAA's decision to drug test employees is relevant.
Did I misinterpret you there? You're basically advocating for removing the 13th floor from elevators because someone might get scared or have their feelings hurt. Or designing a system that applies a penny discount to subtotals that end up at $6.66, $66.66, and so forth (I have heard of this).

4:20 is just a time. And I'm suspicious of your explanation for Lorem Ipsum's usage, as well, given how long it has existed and how long it has been in use.



That is a silly argument.

The designers are specifically choosing 4:20 exactly because it amuses them to include drug references. Therefore management is entitled to be offended by the drug reference. There is certainly no point in being offended over a random number, but this isn't a randomly chosen number.


But before reading responses I though that EC1's comment was about "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" reference. So had I would not returned to this thread I could use it with that meaning.


You're being a but ridiculous, though.

You want to have it both ways. How can it be both a joke/funny and totally unreasonable to be offended by it because it is simply a time. Why would a particular time evoke any sort of humor, right? We are all just tobots that dont ascribe any symbolism or cultural experience to abuthing, right? You're just playing coy here.


I'm not advocating being politically correct because I enjoy it.

My commentary is an alternative perspective based on what I've experienced working at an ad agency (there were many times we pitched extremely offensive ideas), and more specifically working with conservative BANKS. I've had to change the 4:20 timestamp left in Teehan+Lax iOS PSDs countless times before we'd get approval from a bank. I also don't think 4:20 is very original but that's besides the point.

Lorem has a long history in design. There are a lot of reasons it's used in prototypes... reduce client distraction, more accurately reflect the flow of text, easy to calculate word-count when working with copywriters, etc...


Haha coming back later to see the responses to my comment is funny. It's a timestamp on internal documents not many people see, it's fine.


> You're basically advocating for removing the 13th floor from elevators because someone might get scared or have their feelings hurt.

If you want to use an analogy to suggest that a proposal is obviously wrong, you probably want to avoid your analogy being something that is widely established practice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_floor


That's exactly what I meant, actually. I think that practice is stupid.


That was his point...




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